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How to Get Ahead With Venture Capital or Venture Capital?
I'm probably more market and sales oriented, Bob probably is too than you. And so we would be more expansive, we had a more expansive proclivity on the sales and growth front. But I think there was an ethical element too. We got tangled up with tech incubators who were working with some of the junior people that we tried to work with. They failed entirely to educate them about the fact that if you really wanted to start a business, you should go out and find some damn customers. It wasn't easy for everyone to see exactly what was going on.