[Unedited] Michael McCarthy with Krista Tippett
On Being with Krista Tippett
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The Grandfather of Nature Conservation
i went to see max nicholson, an ornithologist. He was the founding father of nature conservation. After the e, after the second world ware, he he set up what was the our equivalent of the fisher wild life service,. which was called the nature conservancy. And you em and i think you know the larger point that you're making. All this is like, as you say, we don't, we don't track all this. We don't track most of it. It's just, it's almost something that you notice in its absence, that abundance that was there....
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