I worry that in the circumstances of withdrawal, Russians would think, hey, we've left Ukraine, we've ended the war. And Europeans will think, you know, no, you committed something resembling genocide in parts of Ukraine. The negative surprise on a related topic is the extent to which many countries around the world have sat on the sidelines in what is very clearly a wolf choice.

Get the Snipd
podcast app

Unlock the knowledge in podcasts with the podcast player of the future.
App store bannerPlay store banner

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode

Save any
moment

Hear something you like? Tap your headphones to save it with AI-generated key takeaways

Share
& Export

Send highlights to Twitter, WhatsApp or export them to Notion, Readwise & more

AI-powered
podcast player

Listen to all your favourite podcasts with AI-powered features

Discover
highlights

Listen to the best highlights from the podcasts you love and dive into the full episode