Just to close this out, how important are right leaning women in the end to winning Pennsylvania? And does Liz Cheney have a real shot at reaching enough of them?

Oh, yeah. I mean, we here in Lancaster County, we actually had the first Republicans for Harris event in the nation. We have a former Republican chair of the county party here named Ann Womble has been the statewide co-chair of that. If you told me 10 years ago I'd be at a rally with Ann Womble and I would hug Joe Walsh at the end of it, it would have like I thought you were crazy. And that something the Harris campaign has done extremely well is sort of create these permission structures for folks who maybe don't agree and will never agree with Kamala Harris on policy. But they creating a permission structure to still view yourself as a Republican, because there are still many decent Republicans out there. And to view yourself as a Republican, but yet make this choice, the same one that Liz Cheney is encouraging people to make, to vote for Kamala Harris, to get rid of Donald Trump, because there are a lot of people out there who actually want their old Republican Party back and will be healthier as a nation if we have a strong two-party system. So yes, absolutely, I think that is true. Here in Lancaster County, Nikki Haley got 20 percent in the primary. Some of our precincts, she was getting 30 and 40 percent. So there are a lot of Republicans out there who are very dissatisfied with having Donald Trump on the ballot again. And I do think that with the outreach that we've been doing that, yeah, they're going to vote for her.

Well, that's certainly a critical piece of the puzzle in beating Trump. Stella Sexton, thanks so much for talking to us today.

Thank you. Thanks for having me on. Folks,

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