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How Did You Become a Backpacker?
I was working in a restaurant at the university and I had done some work in the restaurants to make money as a young person. And I quickly decided that I really didn't want to work for anyone else. I wanted to start my own company and I gravitated towards what I knew how to do. But this was not like when you say you wanted to build your own company, you did not have ambitions to build a massive company. You were making backpacks out of like canvas or cotton material or maybe polyester. No nylon fabrics. They were available back then.