Innovation Doesn't Need Mandates

In brita gross, we ask you about the role of government in spurring innovation. You say that if electric vehicles are so wonderful and the innovation is happening so fast, as miss agros claims, an, you don't need any of government programs. But can you respond to jonathan's point that mandates just don't have a part of this? Mandates don't. And by mandates, we mean, again, things that you are talking about at the beginning, of government programmes to subsidize. Yet, let me maybe just add some perspective on on sort of what the government's doing. For example, this recent inferstructure investment of seven and a half billion