
175 - Nurturing Our Relationships (with Yael Schonbrun)
excellence, actually
00:00
The Paradox of Clean Countertops in Relationships
Caitlin's value on a clean apartment was so much higher than mine. She would see a mess where I wouldn't like actually like what she would look at a counter and be like, that's messy. Instead of having a professional cleaner come once a month, we had them come once a week. "There's just so much more nuance to these things," he says.
Transcript
Play full episode