
Podcast | Peppercorns, Mana, Early Roman Religion (Numenism), Communism and Seeing Life in Memes
Disinfolklore
Linguistic Traces of Manna in Indo-European
Host proposes the MN sound's recurrence in words like communal and meaning as evidence of ancient concepts of exchange.
**I have updated the audio in yesterdayâs Podcast as at around 50 mins this podcast was superimposed unto it! This podcast is also posted as part of my Power of Mana/Finding Manuland project - I just couldnât decide where it belonged!**
As some of you might remember, I studied law. I worked as a property lawyer in London for a little while. One of the features in English law is this idea that sometimes, for whatever reason, commercial property is let at a peppercorn rent. Generally speaking, in this day and age, no peppercorn passes between the landlord and the person whoâs leasing the property. Itâs in all the leases. So that was always just a little curiosity to me, as indeed was the fact in contract law, in English and in American contract law, for there to be a contract to take place, there needs to be an agreement. There also needs to be what they call Consideration. If I contract with you, James, to buy 12 widgets, you have to, for the contract to be valid, you have to in some way pay me a deposit. This is the importance of the deposit.
So thereâs this reciprocity. I was very interested in this book, which I read a couple of years ago by Marcel Mauss, who is one of the, you know, in every academic discipline, thereâs always a few founders who are in every, in the first paragraph in every book. When you look at the laws of Sympathetic Magic, Marcel Mauss is right there.
Thatâs how I knew I was kind of, this is an interesting area to be in. I noted when I was reading this seminal text that some of you might have read as well called The Gift, by Marcel Mauss is he talked about early Germanic law and early Germanic contract law, which is from... which probably actually then becomes part of English law, even though English law says itâs coming from Roman law, which is a distinct Indo-European tradition from the italic as distinct from from the Germanic but in Germanic law each contract, sale or purchase, loan or deposit entails a pledge.
âOne partner is given an object, generally something of little value like a glove or a piece of money, a knife or perhaps as with the French a pin or two. This pledge is in fact imbued,â this is Mauss writing, âthis pledge is imbued with the personality of the partner who gave it. And the fact that itâs in the hands of the recipient moves its donor to fill his part of the contract or her part and buy themselves back by buying the thing.â
So when I saw this, I was like, ah, thatâs interesting.
Whatâs going on is if Iâm, if James is letting me rent his property, his skyscraper in Manhattan at a peppercorn rent, I give him this peppercorn. Actually in that peppercorn is my energy, itâs my Mana. Itâs my personality. Iâve obviously got his because Iâm in the Iâm in the block itself.
What the whole gift is about and Maussâs book is about is heâs looking at various different cultures and the exchange that in many different cultures, especially in Ameri-Indian cultures where early examples come from this potlatch, which is this institution of a meal, a communal meal, where youâre being hosted or youâre hosting your childâs getting married. You have to host the whole village. You give them food and drink and stuff like that. That interested me because in a lot of Irish mythological texts are about these big feasts. I always wondered whatâs going on here.
It appears as if there is this idea of when you eat, when you partake of the feast, youâre taking something into you. So this is this idea of your energy, your Mana is being affected by what is coming into your body. Just as it is whatâs coming into your mind from memes and from disinformation.
Equally, of course, what youâre giving into other peopleâs minds. So this is a reason. So this is why in my X and Bluesky profiles I say âthere is Mana,â âMana is permanent,â and âCommunicate positive Manaâ (note the M-N-sound in Communicate, Permanent, and, of course, Mana).
This is this idea that, and what the Russians are doing is communicating just such negative Maa and driving us all to driving us all nuts with it. So this meaning of... And then I discovered this, which Iâve written about in my other project (Finding Manuland/Power of Mana), which isnât so directly relevant. But that thereâs lots, thereâs heaps of different names for what I call Mana and this phenomenon which many people have written about from the beginning.
Iâm just applying it to Disinformation studies. Thatâs my contribution to contemporary culture. Why particular memes take hold. Become contagious and how to detect in particular innocuous artefacts of what I call Disinfolklore or stories to detect in them these three archetypes: Russiaâs invincible, Russiaâs undefeatable and Russia has the right to intervene in its neighbours of political destinies.
So you can see that energy, that Mana in billions of different stories and items of Disinfolklore being voiced by everyone from Biden to Bill to people who arenât pro-Russian. I have too in the past. We hear it from our friends all the time about Russia as being invincible. Thankfully, what weâre seeing at the moment is this archetype, this transition, this change. I donât think if Russia does manage to take Pokrovsk, this is not going to disrupt the change in archetypal identity that appears to be taking place in the minds of, if not Donald (because obviously we know he changes with the weather), but in the minds of everyone around Donald. People - someone said to me today - someone who like two years ago Weâre always having intense discussions about Ukraine and he was always like, âoh, Russia, basically Russiaâs invincible, nothing will happen.â Now today heâs arguing the opposite. Thatâs a really good indicator for me.
The different words we have for this in different cultures, in Chinese cultures, itâs called Chi. Itâs Qi in Japanese culture, in Hindu, itâs called Prana (breath). It interests me. Itâs not called Mana in Hindi culture now. In Hebrew culture, itâs called Ruach.
These are all varieties of what I call Mana.
The Police would talk about synchronicity. Thatâs what that album means, synchronicity. So teleama, libido. Freud talked about libido. Nous. Someone else talked about Nous. Aristotle or someone like that: Vis medicatrix naturae. So kind of a formative cause. Pneuma. Holy Spirit, Woden. Actually, in Germanic culture, interestingly.
So there is this, or X-energy. So there is this, a lot of different people have noticed what I call Mana. But obviously this was before the disinformation age. So they didnât really apply it to memes. What weâre dealing with in our timelines or what is in the what is in the information space and in the minds of our leaders and our leadership and how theyâre affected.
We, as those pro-Ukraine, people in the pro-Ukraine information space, we have such a history, an in-depth history of this up and down since February 24th 2022. Where weâve watched all the world leaders go through these changes like from âwe need to give Putin a climb downâ to âwould you like ketchup with your 250 4th generation Gripen fighter jets Ukraine.â
Weâve seen this evolution of ideas and changes in archetypes in peopleâs minds. I think that gives us an edge in terms of it gives us a huge data set. A huge learning set for our algorithms, which a lot of other people donât have.
This idea that when we write something that other people read changes them. Likewise, what they write changes you. When youâre speaking to people.
So this is what I mean by Iâm looking at this in a particular segment of how we spend each day or of our consciousness or in human history, in human culture, which is in disinformation and Disinfolklore is what Iâm particularly interested in.
Its insights or what I see in it is it applies in all forms of communications. Itâs deeply embedded into our language. This M-N- sound in communication, communal, communal feast,⌠The M-N- sound in there and in meaning.
It makes sense to me that this sound and the meaning and this idea of exchange and energy exchange was known and used by the first Indo-Europeans, the M-N- in Yamna as well, the first Indo-Europeans.
Weâve just kind of lost sight of it. It is embedded in the language. You donât need to be interested in linguistics and what unites all native Indo-European language speakers between Ireland and India in terms of their mental frameworks to find this is a useful tool for parsing data.
There was a lot of work done in the 19th century when the Polynesians were discovered to have this concept of Mana. Itâs important to know now a lot of the genetic⌠We know there was a lot of trade between India and Polynesia and between traders and Brahmin traders at the time. The people in the late 19th century didnât really understand this that much. In fact, itâs really only becoming and I see stuffâs coming up in the last few months on looking at ancient DNA to try and work out the migration patterns in the Pacific.
The meaning of Mana in these tribes where, this is classic, 19th century stuff Iâll quote:
âthe Melanesian mind is entirely possessed by the belief in a supernatural power or influence almost called almost universally Mana. This is what works to affect everything which is beyond the ordinary power of men. Outside of common processes of nature, it is present in the atmosphere of life.â
What I started today with to talk about magic, what Iâm trying to do is decouple the idea of magic from something that is otherworldly to its initial and true meaning in our governance systems - Magistrate. Majesty. Magi. Magus. Magister as distinct from minister. The magister is the master and the minister ministrates to the master. We now have that in our governance discourse. When we talk about ministers this is part of the same semantic field and the same signifying field in Indo-European communities across the world as Magic.
Because of various cultural reasons, we associate magic with something that is otherworldly and that is the opposite of science. In fact, itâs intrinsic to the way we organize ourselves. as societies as Indo-Europeans. Itâs quite useful when you then come across this discipline, this aspect to this cultural psychology, and you see the laws of sympathetic magic and you donât think, oh, this is about, you know, some great, I canât even think of any of those famous Hollywood illusionists. No, itâs not. Itâs about an aspect of being human and exchanging - âsympatheticâ in this sense is about exchange. Itâs about pathos, pathetic, exchanging feelings.
So when these 19th century, a lot of them were religious, they were missionaries South Seas. They encounter this concept of Mana. Theyâre amazed by it. They just think this is how the primitive mind works and over the course of thousands of years, we became more advanced than them.
Thatâs not that interesting to me. What is interesting to me is how fascinated this was the whole industry they were in this concept Mana. No one seemed to notice, even some of the greatest minds, that M-N-, the same sound, is in the language that they were talking about, Common. Men, Human.
They were really fascinated. There were various attempts then to connect this idea with Mana with early Roman religion, for instance, Numenism. Again, the M-N- in Numenism. Thereâs lots of fights over it. This is this idea that in early Roman religion, italic culture. You have a god. So this is an example I picked up from the deities protecting maternity (M-N-):
âYou have the tumulus and sentinus have given him life and feeling. Opus, these are all deities. Opus takes him up from the bosom of the earth. Vaticanus opens his mouth for the first time. Levana lifts him off the ground. Cunina cares for him in the cradle. Potina and Aduca give him drink and food respectively.â
From the 19th century perspective, theyâre looking at these pagan Romans having, like, gods for absolutely everything. Thereâs evidence that everything in the household - there is different household gods for every dimension of their lives. From our perspective, we look at these 19th century missionaries in as bizarre a way as we look at these Romans.
What I think is really the link with Disinformation studies is that when weâre looking at memes and these things which come alive in our minds, which come alive in our culture and then are transmitted, they are contagion. Rhey become the object of contagion. That this is really what weâre talking about. Itâs the same thing. Itâs the same phenomenon (m-n-) that the Romans (m-n-), the ancient, the early Romans. Then they consolidated everything into a few deities. Underneath them were just hundreds or thousands of deities. As there were with the Hittites and in other early religious cultures.
This is when we see life in memes and in certain things which take fire, which go viral. I think itâs a similar phenomenon. I think itâs the same thing really. What is common about it is Mana. Thereâs an energy in this rock. Or an energy in this God. Rhis deity that protects us or moves between us. I donât mean protects us in a religious sense. I mean, actually, I donât mean protect at all. But just that the energy moves between us.
So Iâm trying to connect these old manifestations (m-n-) of ideas of energy running between people with what weâre dealing with in the information space. Equally what weâre dealing with in our normal lives when youâre feeling quite down and you bump into someone who just brightens your life. You bump into a child or itâs a cat or a dog or your friend or your friend who always makes you laugh. What youâre really doing there is exchanging energy.
I talked about it before from the biological sense that the mitochondria in our cells creates the energy. Now we know that they create all the energy which keeps us alive. That they transfer that energy between cells. So this model also has a biological um itâs a biological um uh correlate on it and uh that is really all i wanted to um thatâs what i set out all of this now i finished now i set out to talk about four weeks ago.
Finding Manuland
Finding Manuland takes us on mental journeys across the space between Ireland and India.
Finding Manuland moves us across time from 4,000 BCE until the present.
Our mental models of how the past and the present interact expand, through Finding Manuland.
We begin around 4,000 BCE with the Yamnaya community who lived between the Don and the Dniepr rivers of Ancient Ukraine. These Yamnaya created the first Indo-European language. They buried their dead, covered in ochre, with their knees flexed, in the hundreds of thousands of mounds that still remain in the lands between Ireland and India - Manuland.
Today, over half of humanity uses sounds and meanings first forged on the Ukrainian steppe. Immanent in the genome of most humans who live in Manuland is the mitochondrial DNA of our Yamnaya ancestors. Everyone who can understand these words in an Indo-European language, is the cultural descendant of this community of migrants who spread so successfully east and westwards across the Steppelands from Ancient Ukraine.
Decoding Trolls is the first to discover that immanent in almost every sentence we speak or think through an Indo-European language is an M-N- sound coupled with meanings that were first forged by our Yamnaya forebears.
This might just be a coincidence. Or the M-N- sound might be THE fundamental cryptotypic semantic signalling system undermining the matrices of metaphors through which we communicate today. M-N- might well be a permanent monument, remnant and reminder of the Yamnaya and indeed Mana - the Subtle Energy we exchange with humans and animals - anchored in almost every thought we have.
In any event, Mana, Woden, Nous, Holy Spirit, Prana, Châi, Ki, Libido, Mungo, Synchronicity, Anima Mundi, Orenda, Manitu, Wong, Tondi, ⌠are all manifestations of the same phenomenon that was present in the minds of Yamnaya, as in all ancient and contemporary humans. If only we can connect again to Mana, and harness it to impact positively every interaction we have inside our communities.
Such are the ideas that Finding Manuland elucidates located in the space, time, and culture of Manuland.
So our story emanates from Ancient Ukraine, and terminates in the questions:
Why is this M-N- sound and its associated meanings so immanent in Indo-European culture? Can we know what this immanence means?
If Mana is what remains of us in others when we leave them, then, there is Mana. Manaâs permanent. Letâs communicate positive Mana. And Finding Manuland will help remind you of this, in every interaction you experience today with other sentient beings.
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