Speaker 3
I used to think that like genetic, you know, let's just say genetics, for sure, provided we're capable of providing more conclusive evidence than textual analysis. But the truth is
Speaker 4
textual analysis can be more of an open-shred case than even genetics. So you're, I hear you. So you're referring to the DNA studies at the Bocamorman, for sure.
Speaker 2
And it's something that I've read like you have, but I'm not a scientist. I'm not qualified to talk about, but I,
Speaker 1
but I agree with you, John. I think it, I think it's more compelling because,
Speaker 2
with the, with the DNA evidence, the book can be
Speaker 1
completely reinterpreted, so that instead of every, instead of the indigenous population being the principal, descendants of Lehi and his family, we can reread that. So it's just a small, tiny little segment of the population and, and, and, you know, read it in different ways. But what does, what does someone do with this when the Bocamorman is going to quote from this material, tell us that it was there on the brass plates, tell us it was all from Isaiah, put it in the mouth of, of Abenadi, put it into the mouth of, of, of Jacob and others and, and be so central to the Bocamorman structure and its whole production. What do
Speaker 2
you do with that?
Speaker 7
When the, when the
Speaker 1
material didn't exist by the time I would have left. Yeah, what do you do? I, maybe a good point. I, I love this quote. If we could share this with the audience, I think it's great. It's actually from a book called God's Word in Human Words. It's written by a scholar by the name of Kenton Sparks. And I, I choose this because Kenton is not a disbeliever. This is a, this is an evangelical scholar who believes that the Bible is the Word of God.
Speaker 2
And yet he writes these, this in his, in pages 106 through seven of his book, I'll
Speaker 1
it strains the imagination to believe that Isaiah addressed these theological debates about a Gentile Messiah, some 150 years before they took place and that his response to those debates was copied and recopied for many years by scribes and read by audience who could not have made heads or tails out of Isaiah's rhetoric. It is more sensible to conclude that the prophets' words did not predict these debates so much as pre-supposed them.
Speaker 8
Right. It's obvious to us. Yeah. Yeah.