The Relationship Between O'Neil and the Counter Culture

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O'neil was funded by stuart brand's point foundation, which used profits from the whole earth catalogue to promote social good s. Brand saw it in order to advance a particular kind of agenda and keep ideas in the broader cultural con on. And this is cognate with what gerard o'neil said about new worlds that could end cultural conflict between cultures. You could produce worlds for everybody - they would all still be part of the bigger project,. where we can create an irish republic in space or something like that. So if body had their own world, there would be no more conflict over territory or ideology.

Paris Marx is joined by Fred Scharmen to discuss Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos’ visions for space colonization, the inspiration they draw from the work of Wernher von Braun and Gerard O’Neill, and what’s wrong with basing our future on those ideas.

Fred Scharmen is the author of Space Forces: A Critical History of Life in Outer Space. He teaches architecture and urban design at Morgan State University’s School of Architecture and Planning and is the co-founder of the Working Group on Adaptive Systems. Follow Fred on Twitter at @sevensixfive.

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Paris wrote about the billionaire space race and Jeff Bezos’ vision for space colonization.
Wernher von Braun was a Nazi before becoming chief architect of NASA’s Saturn V rocket. He appeared in a 1955 Disney program about space flight, but his past was also criticized, including in a song by Tom Lehrer.
Elon Musk has cited Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” as an inspiration and Jeff Bezos saved The Expanse when it was cancelled.
Jeff Bezos’ ideas about space colonization come directly from Gerard O’Neill’s vision of space colonies floating in space.
Adam Mann asked in the New Yorker whether Mars was really ours for the taking.
The Just Space Alliance presents an alternative to the billionaire framing of space.