
Inside Robo-debt: The Shorten interview
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The Role of Malice in Government Decisions
There is a very clear political dimension to all of this and you're now a minister in essentially the same shoes as Scott Morrison, Alan Tudge, Stuart Robert. There was that dangerous combination of incuriosity and I would say malice in some cases. What can you possibly do to guard against people like that in jobs like those because they're elected officials right? Well I'll tell you some things I do which hopefully keep my feet on the ground. I visit the frontline staff of Services Australia and the National Disability Insurance Scheme so I visit. So there is a different approach. And each of those people count and their point of view deserves to be heard.
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