I'm just fascinated by how people can rationalize fraud. I think the mass majority of the population fits in the other category, the accidental and the righteous. There are born corporate con men and women that know a system and exploited for personal gain. That's never going to change. But it's the people that don't intend to or the people that do intend to help someone else that I'm just, I want to open our eyes and expose that category to more people.

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