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How Do You Not Make It Really the Planet Money?
I remember we had a conversation Alex I think it was probably like 2016 and you said you know I'm almost at the point where I'm making as much money and income as I made at NPR. And I thought man that is just such a risk like this guy is in his late 40s he's got two kids and like he's just getting to that point after two years of a slog. How do you not make it actually the planet money or blah blah blah? Like how do we actually make them feel new and different? That was hard. We heard it second hand. No one would say it to your face. Nobody faced it. But I think that the we had both come