Speaker 2
And we've been playing around with the color, but hopefully we're okay with what we have right now. Dr. Richard Howell, thank you for joining us today, sir.
Speaker 1
thank you so much. You know, I'm so glad that you started out with that fallacy because I've often contended that once you give in to one slippery slope fallacy, then pretty soon you'll be given in to them all. So. Touche, touche. Yeah, exactly. So
Speaker 2
for those of you who are not familiar with Dr. Howell, by the way, Dr. Hal, do I sound okay on your end? Is my mic too hot?
Speaker 1
No, it sounds great to me. Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2
Yeah, very good. Just want to make sure before we get too far in the show. So if you're not familiar with Dr. Hal, he is a long time SES professor. He actually used to lead the PhD program at SES a number of years ago and has been professor emeritus for the last several years and he's someone I am honored to consider a friend and a mentor. And so instead of playing our typical on the contrary kind of game that we that we like to play a number of years ago you and Dr. Geisler, Norma Geisler, our co-founder here at SES, wrote a book together called, what was it? The Religion of the Force? The Religion
Speaker 1
of the Force, right.
Speaker 2
Yes. So in that, obviously you are talking about the Eastern religion origins of the Force from Star Wars and those kind of things. Exactly. But you're still a huge Star Wars fan, as am I. Oh. So
Speaker 1
I am interested in that. I even like Jar Jar Beach.
