China and America (and Taiwan and Ukraine) (Robert Wright & Kishore Mahbubani)
Robert Wright's Nonzero
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The Big Step Came With Trump
i would say there is more of a consensus in america than i think there's been in a long time, that we need to use economic policy, possibly including selective tariffs. The trump years plus covid that was, that was a water shegge, acutely, aov every everything. I don't think china has always been helpful here. But you knower, international relations is a rough business, by the way. And everyone, you got understand, and it's good to defend your interests.
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