570 - Rich Ayers (Muralist)
Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan
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Rich Ayers and Louie
"There's lots of evil in the world. And I'm not saying that the United States should not be supporting the Ukrainians," Ayers says. "When people are getting ridiculed for daring to question the power base, that tells you that they're getting close to something." He adds: "We need to look at situations and say who's making money ... Follow the fucking money"
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