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Okay, so, Ajha,

we want to talk about your book, which is fantastic. It's called Consumed and it looks at the connection between supply chains created by multinational fashion corporations and the colonial empires that preceded them.

We love it. It looks at lots

more, but that was one key

takeaway. So,

like we know that there is, there are all of these huge direct connections between how people look at climate as being a problem that's too big to solve and how people look at the fashion industry as one that's too

big to fix.

This is something that we hear about all of the aspects of climate all the time, right? The same, you're the same thing about energy, the system's too big and it's too broken. So, when people are looking at the fashion industry, you talk about and consume that the system is actually, it's working as designed, right? So, let's have you talk a little bit more about that. How was this set up? How did we know that we were probably going to end up here 100 years

ago? Yeah, so, I mean, if you look at chattel slavery and colonialism in the east, those were all like the building blocks of what the system is today.