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The Relationship Between the Father and the Mother
I was kind of positing the older male lover as this kind of uncle figure to kind of to kind of displace this what edible relationship or something. I think sometimes you can associate that with fatherhood because that's how lakians and fridayans read it like you need somebody to remove you from this kind of mini community. The crucial trait I would capture in that idea is less the is it pointing outwards or pointing inwards because those two get covered. It's either here nor there it's introducing it to social space but it's an intimacy so it's a teacher of something secret or an intimate.