D.J.: The morality doesn't excite me, and it's not the moral framework that makes me fall in love with something. But some things that are exciting to me is the notion of justice. And Jesus, the fact he was a man who died, is not really negotiable,. but the fact that the resurrection is kind of a totally upper debate kind of a thing, right? So to me, that's exciting. D.J: It's just those arguments were never attracting me. I think it's partly because I'm an idiot.

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