You

know I went to Harvard, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean I had a great night and then went back home. No, I only visited there a couple times. Well,

I know you play really good chess. I

did play chess. Magnus Carlsen told me. I

had Magnus Carlsen in a couple days ago. He told me that you did one of his opening moves, that you did it for him. And he was like, what the fuck is he doing like he couldn't even figure out why you did them but he realized afterwards like oh you're a really good chess player that was actually a legitimate move you did his opening

right well yeah uh yeah i did one time i did an opening for the other guy uh what's his name uh anyway and i and i'm do this opening, and at the same time I want to tip over with my pinky, tip over the king. Just as a joke, you know, because you tip over the king, the game's over, right? So I did that, and there was kind of a chuckle and everything and picked it up, and then he's looking quite concerned. Oh, yeah, this was it. I can hear the lady. This is an announcer. Yeah. I knocked it down, and then I pushed it. Yeah, they slow it down. You can see it. But then I pushed the pawn, right? And then I realized, because I thought he said D4, right? He didn't say D4. He said E4. So I'm looking at his face, and he had whispered it to me into my bad ear. And I'm like, well, what do you got to whisper? I'm going to make the move anyway. Well, Magnus

said you stuck around and you played a lot of people and he said you were really good. Oh, that's very nice. Coming from him. Magnus Carlsen. Yeah. He's the Mozart, man. Yeah. Fascinating guy. He was here a couple of days ago. Was he? Yeah.

Yeah. I do admire him. He's great. And that whole thing, you know, that just happened with the jeans like that was great. Did you see it? You know, he went to he went to one of the big I forget which tournament was. But anyway, came in jeans and they're very strict. And so they wouldn't allow him to play. And then so he basically was going to end up sacrificing the day because he came in jeans, right? He said, I just wasn't thinking about it, you know. Well, so then he's just like, you know, you'll have to come back tomorrow. You're a sacrifice for today. He's like, you know what? I won't be back tomorrow. And then, boom, they changed the rules. Oh, wow. They changed it. Yeah, that's a stupid

rule. Yeah. Who gives a shit if you're wearing jeans? I know. That doesn't make you a better or worse player. Yeah, it's stupid. Everybody should be able to have to play in their underwear. That way you know they don't have any devices on them. Right. You know, you're not

doing anything. They could have it in them, too. They could, yeah. So maybe you've got to do erectile probing before. This is full circle with the talking about the aliens. But, you know, maybe you have to do something before. Well, we got into very specific ways that people cheat. It was pretty interesting.

He was talking to us about different ways that people have been busted cheating different people signaling them in the room moving to different parts of the room if they wanted the piece to move in a

different area yeah yeah because he that one guy he said was cheating he said he knew as soon as the move was made and then he walked out yeah that was another time yeah he

he just like there's no way this guy made this move no chance that was what was fascinating that you could tell by the way a guy's playing that something was amiss that there was this is not inside of his capability he knew the way the guy played so well that you could tell that something was off which is so crazy which is i'm not literate in chess so i don't understand how you could do that but i believe him especially when you talk to him like well he's got a thumper in his sock or something you know

somebody's giving him a looking on a computer and then he thinks it's an

internal you're like a very small invisible earpiece is that what he thought yeah yeah that's what he thinks he thinks that one of the possible methods and then there was the anal beads. People were talking about anal beads. Anal beads.

It's like I don't want to thump her in his sock.

He just wants to go

pure inside man.

Yeah. I guess it would like vibrate. I guess you would do it like vibrate a certain amount of times first to indicate the letter and then a couple times to indicate the number that's where the piece would go a little more is cold in the uh yeah uh yeah

how

long have you been playing chess i

started i mean i started playing more probably like 10 years ago or maybe more than that i started playing uh willy you know wow started playing Willie all the time. But then we'd switch over back to dominoes. He crushes me in dominoes, and then I was mostly winning chess. And then toward the end of our battles, he started switching to just, you know what, we'll just stay with the dominoes.

Such a hustler. Such hustler yeah i tried to interview him but he's scared of covid yeah he's an old guy you know i get it it's

92 can't

take a chance getting infected and you know that a lot of old people i got it i got the fear because it's like death is close to them. It's just they're too vulnerable. I get it. I get why they got roped into it.

Well, yeah, the fear of germs, yeah, that's... That was the Neil Young thing, too. That's why I gave Neil Young a pass. I was like, I get it. A lot of people you still see wearing

masks. Oh, all the time, even in Austin.

Yeah. I see

them driving their fucking car still with masks on. Yeah.

Alone in the car with the mask. Yeah, they're just sick. That always confuses me. But, you know, like, fear is a fairly relentless occupation for some, and I don't know. I just, you know, I studied the germ theory. You know how it came to be the backbone of Western medicine. Do you know? The Rockefeller thing? Well, yeah, that came after this. But, yeah, Rockefeller pushed that whole narrative. But it was before that in the 18... What was it? 1887 or something, 89, where Louis Pasteur stood before the French Academy of Science and said, I've realized the origin of all disease and it's the germ theory. And he took credit for the germ theory, which, course, had been around for centuries at that point. But there was another guy named Antoine Béchamp who was actually a real genius, was a charlatan and used to basically stole all these good ideas that he never had from Antoine Béchamp, including how fermentation works, how they had diseases in the grapes at the time, how to deal with that disease and also having to do with, you know, where they make the silk, like silkworms and stuff. That also was another thing that Béchamp figured out. And then, you know, Pasteur, who was on the same committee, ends up reading these papers and basically kind of putting his own spin on it and getting credit for, you know, the fermentation, the soap form, the wine thing. You know, like each thing, he becomes more and more famous. And until he's able to sit down in front of Napoleon in 1863, Napoleon III, he said, I will eliminate all disease. I will eradicate all human disease. He was an arrogant guy, and he was a complete fraud. And Pasteur believed the germ theory, obviously. That's the theory that he pushed, right? And then, Bechamp believed in the terrain theory. Now, that's what I believe. The terrain theory, the germ theory, obviously, a pathogen, a germ, a virus, whatever, lands in your cornflakes or on your eyeball or whatever. It gets inside you. And then in this blank, pristine, blank slate environment, it causes damage, maybe sickness and eventually death. To me, I don't believe this theory as much as I do the terrain theory, which is that your health is dependent upon your internal biological terrain and your internal filthiness or cleanliness. And so that's what I believe is where people's immune system gets messed up from what they're consuming. And in a nutshell, that's why I believe in Béchamp's theory as opposed to the germ theory. And at least it's got to be both. the very least, it's got to be both. I would imagine it's both. I mean, we know for a fact that

one of the main factors in eliminating diseases in North America was when they started having hygiene and when they started having flowing water and sewage systems and that just having cleanliness. I mean, most cities at the turn of the century were filled with filth. I mean, during the smallpox epidemic, people lived terrible. They lived in filth when you had the various, like there's a bunch of different diseases that can be attributed to poor hygiene. Poor hygiene, no access to antibiotics, no access to any kind of medicine. And we all attribute that just to a disease broke out. But why did the disease break out? Well, the people who were living in filth, there was no running water. They didn't have sewage systems. They didn't have any sort of antibiotics, including like when people talk about the Spanish flu. Like if the Spanish flu broke out today, we'd be fucked. No, we wouldn't. First of all, we have antibiotics now. Spanish flu would be killed quickly. The real factor was all these diseases that people were getting because of the infection that could be cured by antibiotics.