I felt like he didn't really present an argument. He was just kind of trashing me. The one thing he said that was part of an argument is that people do enjoy going to work because that's a better way to exchange ideas. And then, I was just saying, oh, would not a real New Yorker or this, that I was born in New York. But anyway, that's, I'm not in New York either now. So the, I'm literally in the farthest, furthest place philosophically from New York, what you could be. It still is.

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