And so when we look at this problem, a lot of people are just like, well, it's toxic masculinity. It's the patriarchy. And they sort of point to these vague systems and say these systems need to change. The problem is is that the individuals that occupy those systems might not see it that way. And from doing a tremendous amount of work with tens of thousands of men over the years, what I can almost unequivocally say is that masculinity is not toxic and it's not a problem for men. Some of the narratives that we as men sometimes carry and buy into, maybe not so helpful. But I think what this does is it often overlooks the underlying issue. And the underlying issue is very clear that there are a lot of men carrying around pain, trauma, abuse, neglect that we as a culture in a society haven't learned how to work with that we as a culture in a society haven't learned how to deal with or accept. Because the reality is that when a man's hurting and when a woman is hurting, how they express that hurt is different. And the mainstream narrative and conversation is well, men should express their hurt like women do. And that's not always necessarily the case. It's also also not necessarily as helpful as we think it might be for men. You know, the notion of like vulnerability is this cure all just be more vulnerable and you'll be a happier man and you'll be more socially safe. And maybe that's the case sometimes, but not all the time. So this brings me to this foundational pillar of masculinity that I think is at the root of some of what the challenge is that we're facing in our culture today, which is that to me, one of the main pillars of masculinity, especially healthy masculinity is this notion of nonconformity. And there's something within the masculine core within the masculine drive that desires to move deeper and deeper and deeper into a state of sovereignty, into a state of independence, into a state of competence and mastery. And when you can do those things and have that be contribution to the world, to the community that you're a part of, to your family system and your friends and the environment that you are that you inhabit, then there's a deep purpose that's baked into that you find a deeper sense of freedom.