The Diversity of Experience and Background in Outdoor Climbing

I think um it's uh really good that you've got into that yeah a position and I've got no doubt at all that the diversity of experience and background that you've come from as a climber. Growing up with that evolution in you know attitude and exposure to those things but then also doing as an adult but both indoors and in a comp setting under a lot of pressure sometimes not so much pressure. nowadays you're you're a reflection of that thing because I always tell people to even if they're a an incredible outdoor climber and they've been top of the game for 10 years but they have never done a competition indoors and they're literally going to their first one.

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