When you have more than one discerner in a conversation that it's sort of additive, like, yes. And so when I would think something and then Tracy would confirm it was like, okay, there we go. We have the answer for this. Some people struggle with that at first because the word discernment seems like just a generally positive thing,. Like do you have good judgment in life? What we mean by this is not discipline and good common sense, but do you have that instinctual, intuition, ability? And some people just don't.