Join Morag Gamble in this episode with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross to explore the possibilities of transformative relationships between humans and the more-than-human, and discover the spiritual wisdom of trees.

From deepening our understanding of thoughts beyond language to learning from trees and mycelial networks, they share stories about our connections to nature and our processes of becoming rooted and fluid.

On Earth Day this year Leah & Beth released a book together called, Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees, exploring:

Moving from science to spirit: how forestry and ecology meet mystery.
Trees as spiritual beings and patient teachers.
The loneliness of isolated trees—and what it teaches us about human community.
Practices to connect more deeply with trees wherever you are.
Cracking open: the vulnerable yet transformative journey of opening to nature’s wisdom.

Leah Rampy is a writer, speaker, and retreat leader living in a co-housing community who weaves ecology, spirituality, personal stories, and practices to help others deepen their relationship to the natural world. She is the founder and leader of Church of the Wild Two Rivers, and co-founded Save Our Soil - a volunteer organisation promoting soil health, local food, native plants, and regenerative agriculture.

Beth Norcross is a passionate spiritual guide, author, naturalist, TEDx speaker, and founder of The Center for Spirituality in Nature. She offers nature's wisdom for living with connection, resilience, joy, and hope, particularly in challenging and uncertain times.

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This podcast is hosted by Morag Gamble, founder of the Permaculture Education Institute - the leading-edge international online school for integrated permaculture design, education, leadership and [pr]activism.⁠

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This podcast is broadcast from a solar powered studio in the midst of a permaculture ecovillage on Jinibara & Gubbi Gubbi country.

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