It really takes somebody who is passionate about this and is willing to endure getting this set up and push forward. And we saw in Michigan that that took various forms, you know, in some places it was geneticists. Other places it was a neontologist who was really championing this. The counselors were a huge part of advocating for this. We also knew that within a state ecosystem for something like baby deer, the Michigan Health and Hospital Association had been incredibly helpful.

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