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"I don't mind that we panic a little bit, because it does cause us to build new industries and stuff," he says. "If you had been fed as much bullshit as conservatives and Republicans have been fed for years, would you believe anything? And that's a big problem." He asks: Would everybody be OK with the following statement of fact? 'Regardless of how true climate change is as a risk, I think it's basically true'
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