i think it was a couple of times. The memories around it are vague. Couple of days or wel, i think probably within a period of, er, a couple months or something like that. I the first time, i think was probably a couple of different occasions in the one that i was referring to. And then there was a second time when i was quite a bit older, that was, i think i had the wherewithal to stop it at a certain point. There was an attempt by a groomer, sort of, you know, go a kind of plain big brother, taking me and this other kid, to the movies and o ball games or whatever,. But

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