CNN.com's Kat Kinsman sat down with the two women to talk about their shared experience of growing up in New York City and working in the magazine industry. She also asked them how they dealt with being a first generation college grad or student, as well as having an interest in girls' education. "It's really hard sometimes to understand the context when you're in the middle of the facts," she said. 'I think for me, that's this notion of the power of being a first started to settle in"

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