How Did the Podcast Start?

We started seeing each other at various conferences. I feel like if we hadn't met at that first conference, we wouldn't have been as friendly at those subsequent conferences. So what's your perspective on how the podcast started? Well, I didn't know that you were particularly into podcasts because it was not something we would ever talk about. It's just not something I knew about you. But I had interviewed you before for other videos, sort of, you know, with your face, obscure and stuff. Just as kind of meta type things that youtubers do together. And yeah, so then we met occasionally in London, but not very frequently.

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