Listen to the conversation between howard and nick. Just listen to the conversation. And i'd like to just try and understand what they're saying. Again, i'll explain some of the language that they use afterwards. Do you understand and do you agree with them? Here we go. D, by the way, this recording was made on a caset recorder. In england we still use cassete recorders. So if the qualityis not like digit or perfect, it's because it's a casette recorder. But i think, actually, that the quality on this one's not too bad, so you should be able to understand it. One, two, three, four

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