Well, they also have texts of him and the woman that they refer to as Camilla in the documentary. You know, she's sending him photos and he's asking for more photos. And I mean, I don't know to what extent you want to get into the specifics. But I, like I was saying to you before we started recording, I see the perspective of people in the Nixxiom community saying, okay, this is a scam trial. This was done in a very unfair way. There's a lot of media manipulation. Obviously, any time sex is involved in American society, things get blown out of proportion. You know, it sure is very easy to use sex to both demonize someone and to attract a lot of public attention. You know, so it's a great tool for fucking people over. On the other hand, I got to say, Keith Renere comes across to me as a creep. He's he's a fraud. He lied about his past. He lied about degrees that he didn't have. He ran pyramid schemes before he's founded Nixxiom. So I also see now that doesn't mean that the guy deserves to spend his life in prison. There are lots of people who I consider to be pretty creepy who are in positions of leadership and great wealth and status. So it's that's that's neither here nor there. But I guess what I'm getting at is is there an element? I don't know. I also want to say that the episode I watched about you, I have to say I was. Touched by your loyalty. I was touched by the fact that you were like this guy taught me something that helped me immensely and I'm not going to abandon him. I'm not going to walk away from him. And I think that's a beautiful impulse. And I admire it in you. On the other hand, the world is full of fucked up people who say really interesting intelligent things, right? I mean, there are a lot of surgeons who are probably horrible people, but they're really good surgeons. And if that surgeon saved your life, that doesn't mean that he's a good person. Absolutely. You're a

good surgeon. I have everything you're saying. I appreciate and I can answer just a couple of things. The way so. Yeah, because there were so many different things. The first thing I just want to say, I'm not, I told you before the podcast, I'm not good. My intent is not to come on here to defend every sort of content point about key life that he didn't like, this is what they said, but this isn't true. It's just impossible for me. I could talk to you about some specific things that, you know, to help, you know, sort of educate about some of the, this ridiculousness of what is out there. What I have been fighting for for the last four years is for Keith Ranere's due process and exposing crimes that the government has committed to convict a man. The way that the vow edited and used our interviews was highly unethical in my experience. They, you know, here they were, they, you know, they said that they were trying to bring in another side, but the, what's so funny is whether it's myself or Eduardo or Nick, your Michelle or Sunil, we keep saying, well, there's these injustices. There's this, this trial is an injustice, but never once did they enumerate what those injustices were that we were talking about. Instead of just, it looks like we're these people saying, well, no, Keith is a good guy. This is an injustice. I am not loyal to Keith Ranere. I am loyal to myself and my integrity and the principles that I have in my own life. What I have witnessed in front of me is a grave injustice against American citizens. Now whether or not someone believes a Keith Ranere is the devil or not, you can think whatever you want about him, what I care about and what I did not know before this experiences is the dark underbelly of the justice system. But here, if you have powerful people and who colludes with the media, they can put anyone they want in jail. I am not out there just haphazardly saying, Keith Ranere is a good guy. You should like him. What we have brought forth is scientific evidence that the FBI tampered with the child pornography while it was in their possession. The media card that came from that camera was altered. This is in the trial under the FBI under the prosecution's own witness. They testified to this that it was modified while in their possession. It is so messed up to think that you could have a high profile criminal case that's broadcasted to the world. And these FBI agents were brazen enough to know and the prosecutors could allow it that they could do this and no one would give

a fuck.