The Importance of Free Access

I used to get kind of upset by the, the people who have to snark on price. And then I was kind of talking to John Bullas and he's like, Nicole, those people were never going to come anyway. They're just using it as an excuse for themselves to not, to not do the thing. But there's something to it when there's so many things that you can go to now. You can't always go to living free in Tennessee because you need to spread that awesome around. It's a tricky thing. The other, there's like a flip side to this. So my podcast is going to be free. For sure. People can just listen to