The Moral Equivalent of Civil Engineers for AI Driven Systems

For me one of the challenges that's been propelling me forward for the last three years is very much about well who are the moral equivalent of the civil engineers for these systems that have AI at their core right. Part of the work we decided to do here at the Australian National University was to build a small institute with the overly ambitious I say overly ambitious uh a gender of trying to imagine or establish a new branch of engineering to manage these new AI driven systems. It's not about making more computer scientists or different engineers it was about saying much the same way that the railways and indeed electricity and computers had all demanded different kinds of practitioners these new systems do too.