Is Proactive Spiritual Practice Pain Reduction or Inevitable Fire?

When we first step onto the spiritual path, it's easy to imagine it as pure light — all love, peace, and alignment.

But the truth is, awakening often looks a lot more human.

I was invited to be part of the Mastering Spirituality Summit, where I sat down with Jason Marc Campbell for a heartfelt conversation about the real spiritual journey — the one that includes confusion, expansion, surrender, and the beauty of coming home to yourself again and again.

In this episode, I share what my own path has taught me about awakening — how every challenge is an initiation, how our dharma unfolds in layers, and how to keep showing up even when things feel unclear.

We explore:

• The surprising stages of the spiritual journey we all move through

• Why confusion and resistance are signs of growth, not failure

• What it truly means to embody your dharma in everyday life

• How to find devotion and clarity through the unknown

This conversation is an invitation to breathe deeper into your becoming — to remember that the path itself is the practice. And that even the messy, in-between moments are part of your awakening.

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