How to Get Into a Career Based on the Narrative, Right?

Catherine Farrell: We were planning a career based on the old America. Right. And by the time we got into our into the position where we could pursue those careers, which at one time we might have been able to do with some success. But you know, I've told you the story in my case, I'm fresh out of Oxford, I just got my PhD and I start sending out resumes," she says.