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Ep30: Joyce Chang on Market Themes, Defi and Working with Jamie Dimon

Leaders with Joe Cass

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How could a potential de-globalization nations looking to take back control of their energy supply, which we've mentioned already, positively or negatively impact broader ESG and climate goals? Well, it's complex, probably a bit early to tell. I think there are obviously some negatives. We've seen that countries like Germany had to reopen some coal facilities to compensate for the shortage in Russian gas. But at the same time, if you look on a more medium term, this also builds a case for the importance of governments to be their alternative sources of energy,. but this takes time to build the infrastructure. All of this really reminds of the acute need for the world to decarbonize, move

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