The role of the challengers is actually to identify potential gaps and allow to optimization and refinement. The more that we can actually have people play these roles along the way, the more powerful, the more robust, the more adaptable, the more supported we feel. So with me, for example, again, going back to this idea of building an assessment that would lead to a tool that was available to help in research and potentially help millions of people.

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