First up, the Atlantic's CEO Nicholas Thompson on hidden potential, aging well, and pushing past the limits we imagine, with ideas from his 2025 book The Running Ground: A Father, a Son, and the Simplest of Sports. Then we hear from Washington Post sportswriter Sally Jenkins, whose 2023 book The Right Call examines what the greatest coaches and athletes can teach us about work, leadership, and life.
This episode orginally aired on November 26, 2025
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