If you have to impose user fees, and if you read very carefully, the arguments are user pees on social infra structure. You can't subsidize your state on all enterprises and then tell institutional investors, come and finance my private infratstructure. It's not just that you're subsidizing financial capital. It is that you're rdirecting resources from the welfare state towards the drisking state. I wantto think of you ganta. Uganta has, i really like this example of uganta, because nobody writes about it, and i think it should. Huganta is building domestic capacity to build and manufacture electric basses,. It's using its own