
An Emotional Timeline of Taylor Swift & Joe Alwyn's Relationship
Evolution of a Snake: The Taylor Swift Podcast
00:00
The Importance of Honesty
"I tell you this song, this is literally like one of the greatest songs ever written," he said. "The layers to this are like an onion. If you never get to the center, you will neverget to the center of the chit-sy pop." He added that it's also inherently a love song at the same time.
Transcript
Play full episode