Most of the rules you’re following were never made with you in mind and could be the reason you’re burned out.
Cait Donovan sits down with keynote speaker and executive consultant Kim Bolourtchi to talk about what it really means to be Strategically Unruly, and why breaking the right rules might be the key to burnout recovery. Kim shares her story of living a double life as a buttoned-up lawyer and national Latin dance champion, and how a surprising moment in front of the Missouri Supreme Court shattered the divide between who she was and who she thought she had to be.
Together, Cait and Kim unpack how internalized beliefs and outdated expectations—both personal and cultural—keep people stuck in roles that drain their energy and bury their potential. They explore how resentment can serve as a clue to what you really want, why authenticity isn’t just a buzzword, and how to start making change without burning your entire life down.
This episode is a reminder that you don’t have to follow rules that were never made for you. Start with one shift. One rule you no longer want to live by. One step toward being more fully yourself.
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
02:33 The Concept of Being Strategically Unruly
08:04 Developing a Framework for Strategic Unruliness
11:25 Internal vs. External Rules
13:53 The Impact of Rules on Personal Growth
16:14 Challenging Rules That Limit Us
18:09 Deservedness and Burnout
20:07 Focusing on Rules That Hold You Back
25:16 Finding and Challenging Your Own Rules
29:33 Resistance to Breaking Rules
34:54 Being Honest About Commitment
37:01 The Importance of Internal Feeling
39:16 Freeing Up Capacity by Being Authentic
Links
Connect with Kim Bolourtchi:
https://kimbolourtchi.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-bolourtchi/
Connect with Cait:
Cait Donovan is a keynote speaker, author, and host of FRIED: The Burnout Podcast, specializing in burnout, mis/match, and sustainable performance at work. She partners with corporate leaders, teams, and professional associations through keynotes, workshops, and leadership sessions that treat burnout as data, not failure, to help organizations reduce burnout without blame or shame and build healthier, high performing cultures.
To bring Cait to your organization or event, book an inquiry call here: https://bit.ly/bookcait
Learn more about Cait’s speaking work: https://www.caitdonovan.com/speaking
Short on time? Watch this 3-min video: https://bit.ly/caitdreel2025
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