Nightlife, Your Third Book, Your Eighth Book

White sand was my first book. And then it was like my eighth book as well, right? Because I remember doing it in writing group. So basically I have kind of like several eras in my unpublished work. Books one through five are my experimental days of show - which is how we just call them like my experimental film days. A launcher starts my, hey, these aren't terrible face. It's last until we're trying to sell books in New York and everyone tells me you need to be George R. Martin.