DM: I would definitely say the biggest takeaway I've had from my times with Elon at SpaceX is really like the idea of questionnaire constraints. He's pretty transparent, open human being as an engineer, as a leader, as a person. And for me, you know, I think we all put constraints on ourselves. We think about our own limits, you know,. On things that we can or cannot do. DM: It was one of those moments where I was proud of myself because it's easy to just be like, "I'm not ready"

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