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161. 15 Years to Redemption — A Conversation with Dave Durocher

Faith Matters

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The Importance of Whole Person Change

"I believe in whole person change. Go someplace that gives you enough time," he says. "If Dave Deroscher is in a 30 day program with my history, I'm not going to change in 30 days." He also talks about why Delancey Street doesn't charge tens of thousands of dollars a month for its students and how much do they charge on the other side? 'We're so focused on clean and sober that even people who are clean and sober are living really terrible lives'

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