Ndan: It seems like, how can we ever agree on these things? And potentially there's actually much more overlap in terms of what we would care about and agree on. I think that if you really want to succeed politically, there can have to be some comfort with agreeing with someone for somewhat different reasons. Ndan: There is something respectful about taking the time to try to connect the thing that you're trying to convince somebody of to the things they care most about.

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