I am seeing more and more of this game of, let's pay off the founder. I don't begrudge a founder from selling ten or 20 % of ther sag, neither. If they can put one to five million dollars in their bank account it's not enough for them to retire. That doesn't feel like your buying off the founder too much. But then i see this, you know what? In order when this deal, we're going to demand a 10% refresh on a founder who has already got 50%. And it's like, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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