I wonder if people only know if it's fake news because mainstream media used that term and said you must not trust that other. It's interesting to try to follow the trajectory of this growing awareness, because I would say it started well before that fake news. We've always been able to sort of separate ourselves from news and say, oh, that propaganda, but not everybody could do that. You can separate yourself from something and then observe it is a form of taking back power over something. So with the fake news, yes, I agree with what happened. But what I see now is it's sort of everywhere. People question what they're reading. Some people are being caught up in

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