Cody: We've imagined a podcast of post-mortems, where everybody can learn from the mistakes of everybody else after an incident or after something happens. And it's always kind of been stuck at, well, who wants to air their dirty laundry of these poor small owners? You don't. I tried to do that in grab when I first got there. They were like, we should do a public, they had a horrible horrible outage because of Ed CeeD,. It had a huge meltdown and it's terrible and to restart. When grab makes changes, people come in through a brick through their windows.

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