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370: Steve Herz - Don't Take Yes For An Answer

The Learning Leader Show With Ryan Hawk

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Turner Smith, or Alfred Geller?

Alfred geller was a big tv agent, news agent at the time. He had some giant clients like al roker and conni chongls. i recognized him, and i made an elevator pitch, for lack of a better word. And in that moment, i just everything kind of crystallized for me. I didn't feel like his philosophy was a line with mine. Not to say he's a bad guy at all. But itus his business philosophies and mine were not a line.

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